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The anti butter/oil movement

GettingKinky

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I stopped using butters/oils and the LOC method about 2 years ago. My hair is flourishing and my wash n gos have never looked better.

I thought my hair was healthy before, but it is definitely in better condition now.

But I also think butters and oils can be used as long as you wash your hair with a shampoo strong enough to remove them so that water can penetrate your strands.
 

oneastrocurlie

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I wish there was scientific research on this topic So I could know the best haircare for my type hair.

Shoot depending on who you ask the science is interpreted differently. I just remember being frustrated with my hair. I'd baggy, I'd do hot oil treatments, I'd prepoo, I'm loc-ing, I thought wash and gos weren't for my hair type. It would grow but then get stuck at a certain length so I'd get it cut and start over. Then I went to a stylist who was saying almost the total opposite of what I'd read or see on YouTube. She had the receipts so I figured why not. It's not until recently where I see other people/stylists say and do the same. Which honestly is nice cause I didn't feel like there was a space to share lesson learned, products used, techniques or what not because it's not the most popular way of doing our hair. You say you don't use raw oil or butters and people hit you with the "Okaaayyy" like Craig's mom from Friday.
 

ckisland

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As someone who's hair has absolutely hated butters from the beginning, I am so glad that others are coming to the conclusion that butters don't work for everyone!! It's still hard to find butter-free natural hair products, but it used to be so much worse :cry: . Products with oils work for me as long as there are actual moisturizers like (glycerin or aloe vera juice) high up on the list. I used to get so frustrated because my hair would suddenly become very dry and rough, and it was because of inevitable build up. Once I took all of the butters and oil heavy products out of my routine, I can now cowash and use sulfate-free shampoos. Protein/moisture balance isn't even something I have to think about anymore.

I hope that this anti-butter/oil movement will mean that I'm going to have more product options in the future :laugh: !
 
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sunshinebeautiful

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As someone who's hair has absolutely hated butters from the beginning, I am so glad that others are coming to the conclusion that butters don't work for everyone!! It's still hard to find butter-free natural hair products, but it used to be so much worse :cry: . Products with oils work for me as long as there are actual moisturizers like (glycerin or aloe vera juice) high up on the list. I used to get so frustrated because my hair would suddenly become very dry and rough, and it was because of inevitable build up. Once I took all of the butters and oil heavy products out of my routine, I can now cowash and use sulfate-free shampoos. Protein/moisture balance isn't even something I have to think about anymore.

I hope that this anti-butter/oil movement will mean that I'm going to have more product options in the future :laugh: !

I wouldn't be surprised if its in the works. I've seen a proliferation of no oil/butter YT videos from popular influencers. Once the hair care companies get wind and figure they can cash in, they'll be producing more of these products in the future.
 

Rocky91

NYE side boob.
I wouldn't be surprised if its in the works. I've seen a proliferation of no oil/butter YT videos from popular influencers. Once the hair care companies get wind and figure they can cash in, they'll be producing more of these products in the future.
:yep: If any Black-owned product companies are lurking, please take note of this opportunity to create a comprehensive line. We need:
-Clarifying shampoo
-All purpose shampoo
-Moisturizing shampoo
-Emollient rich conditioner
-Base gel with humectants
-Medium hold gel for fluffier looks
-Hard hold gel for longevity
-Moisturizing wrap foam with hold
-Extra credit points: shine serum or shine spray to scrunch out crunch and add shine
-Extra extra credit points: a satin lined buff for nighttime

make sure it smells nice. Please give the rice water and clay a rest and give us the above. Thanks! :look:
 

sunshinebeautiful

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:yep: If any Black-owned product companies are lurking, please take note of this opportunity to create a comprehensive line. We need:
-Clarifying shampoo
-All purpose shampoo
-Moisturizing shampoo
-Emollient rich conditioner
-Base gel with humectants
-Medium hold gel for fluffier looks
-Hard hold gel for longevity
-Moisturizing wrap foam with hold
-Extra credit points: shine serum or shine spray to scrunch out crunch and add shine
-Extra extra credit points: a satin lined buff for nighttime

make sure it smells nice. Please give the rice water and clay a rest and give us the above. Thanks! :look:

:lachen: at the bolded, but I LOVE this list.

If I could switch out my products to only use Black owned brands I would :yep:
 

GettingKinky

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:lachen: at the bolded, but I LOVE this list.

If I could switch out my products to only use Black owned brands I would :yep:
I’ve been working on switching to all black owned products. Some products have to wait because I have a good quality product in my stash I have to work through first

  • Clarifying shampoo - Kinky curly come clean
  • All purpose shampoo - Trepadora Gojiberry (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Moisturizing shampoo - Bekura Fatty coconut (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Conditioner - Briogeo Curl Charisma
  • Base gel with humectants - Uncle Funky Curly magic
  • Hard hold gel - Ecoslay jello shot (Trepadora also makes good anti humidity gels)
  • Foam wrap with hold - The Doux Mousse Def
  • Volumizing foam for fluffy sets - Be Kekoa Rose Water Mousse ( I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Silk lined sleep protection - Grace Eleyae Slap cap
 

sunshinebeautiful

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I’ve been working on switching to all black owned products. Some products have to wait because I have a good quality product in my stash I have to work through first

  • Clarifying shampoo - Kinky curly come clean
  • All purpose shampoo - Trepadora Gojiberry (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Moisturizing shampoo - Bekura Fatty coconut (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Conditioner - Briogeo Curl Charisma
  • Base gel with humectants - Uncle Funky Curly magic
  • Hard hold gel - Ecoslay jello shot (Trepadora also makes good anti humidity gels)
  • Foam wrap with hold - The Doux Mousse Def
  • Volumizing foam for fluffy sets - Be Kekoa Rose Water Mousse ( I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Silk lined sleep protection - Grace Eleyae Slap cap

OK. I didn't know some of these brands were actually black-owned!!!
 

oneastrocurlie

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I’ve been working on switching to all black owned products. Some products have to wait because I have a good quality product in my stash I have to work through first

  • Clarifying shampoo - Kinky curly come clean
  • All purpose shampoo - Trepadora Gojiberry (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Moisturizing shampoo - Bekura Fatty coconut (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Conditioner - Briogeo Curl Charisma
  • Base gel with humectants - Uncle Funky Curly magic
  • Hard hold gel - Ecoslay jello shot (Trepadora also makes good anti humidity gels)
  • Foam wrap with hold - The Doux Mousse Def
  • Volumizing foam for fluffy sets - Be Kekoa Rose Water Mousse ( I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Silk lined sleep protection - Grace Eleyae Slap cap

Great list!

To add:
Adwoa Beauty as has nice all purpose shampoo
Camille Rose Honey Mousse is nice. Design Essentials has a good one too. I keep these two plus The Doux in rotation (whoever is on sale at the time I need it wins).
 
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OmbreLune

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I’ve been working on switching to all black owned products. Some products have to wait because I have a good quality product in my stash I have to work through first

  • Clarifying shampoo - Kinky curly come clean
  • All purpose shampoo - Trepadora Gojiberry (I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Moisturizing shampoo -
  • Foam wrap with hold - The Doux Mousse Def
  • Volumizing foam for fluffy sets - Be Kekoa Rose Water Mousse ( I haven’t tried this yet)
  • Silk lined sleep protection - Grace Eleyae Slap cap
:bookworm: Where do you use foam wrap in your regimen? I have an old OLD bottle of Motions from my relaxed days that I should probably throw out if I'm not gonna use it.
 

GettingKinky

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:bookworm: Where do you use foam wrap in your regimen? I have an old OLD bottle of Motions from my relaxed days that I should probably throw out if I'm not gonna use it.
I use the foam for a few things
  • if I want a wash n go with lots of volume I only use foam. It’s looks great but only lasts a day or 2
  • I use it on my edges when I brush my hair into a puff
  • if I were going to do a twist out or braid out I would use it (but I’m too lazy for these styles)
 

yamilee21

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I think most, if not all the people advocating for no or low oils and butters have low porosity hair and do mostly wash n go’s. You wouldn’t need to seal anything if you washing your hair every 2-3 days. Most twist/braid outs look dusty without some type of oil or butter, especially on kinkier hair. imo.
This is interesting to me… my hair is low-porosity, and using butters and oils changed everything, in a good way. Any time I stop, usually when running low on supplies, my hair is a terrible mess. I have never been able to do wash & go styles though, unless I cowashed every day.
 

GettingKinky

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This is interesting to me… my hair is low-porosity, and using butters and oils changed everything, in a good way. Any time I stop, usually when running low on supplies, my hair is a terrible mess. I have never been able to do wash & go styles though, unless I cowashed every day.
I used to do wash n gos with my DIY mix of shea butter and aloe topped with wetline. They looked really nice but only lasted a day or 2. I’m pretty sure the shea butter was interfering with the hold from the gel.

with my current no butters/oils routine my hair lasts at least 5 days and if I don’t mind a little frizz I can last a whole week.
 
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GGsKin

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I used to do wash n gos with my DIY mix of shea butter and aloe topped with wetline. They looked really nice but only lasted a day or 2. I’m pretty sure the shea butter was interfering with the hold from the gel.

with my current no butters/oils routing my hair lasts at least 5 days and if I don’t mind a little frizz I can last a whole week.
For a while, I also experimented and used my DIY Shea mix on my hair for wng, using diluted KCCC as my gel. I enjoyed the addition, and didn't notice less longevity. Thankfully, I've been able to get my wngs to last for a while. But I did inevitably notice more buildup on my strands, from lint and product.
 

levette

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I wonder if the anti butter and oil movement may have some correlation to the surge of successful natural hair care lines created by black entrepreneurs who use natural ingredients including oils and butters and they are getting supported by the black hair community . Is it that mainstream companies and cosmetologist dislike it because the mainstream products such as Aveda, etc might be seeing a decrease in sales or a decrease of black women going to the hair dresser to get theit hair done because they are self sufficient using hair own self made products With the oils and butters . I could be far off base . What are your thoughts ?
 
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