Keratin Treatment Support Thread

Discussion in 'Hair Care Tips & Product Review Discussion' started by SouthernTease, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. MzSwift

    MzSwift Texlaxed, Fine

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    It's not permanent so maybe it's worth a try. I know how it is to have a new little one and not enough time for haircare. If it'll make your life easier, I think it's worth it! Especially because it's only temporary. If nothing else, maybe it'll make it easier to throw your hair up in a bun.
     
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    Same!! With me I have little ones, a big one and a demanding job- I've been fully natural now for almost two years transitioned for two years before that and I'm sick of throwing my thick natural hair into a ponytail or bun every darn day with only a curly side bang to show off my texture. It isn't my best look. I've always had fairly long hair and I used to wear it down a lot when I was relaxed so I haven't quite felt myself all these years.
    My hair is too thick and wash and go doesn't work. I don't have time to play or experiment with my hair plus I workout and sweat almost every other day.

    This all sounds so negative but these treatments sound like a great way to achieve the ease of styling I have been looking for and I'm glad I've ventured into the hair forums again. Will do my research and keep an eye on this thread.
     
  3. ManeStreet

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    @Napp with the curl control does it help mostly with smoothing and frizz or does it loosen the curl pattern too? If so by how much?
     
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    It can do both. I mainly use it for control letting it sit for 40 mins, rinse, blow dry. And flat iron. I noticed the more product you leave it in the more it can loosen the curl pattern. I actually apply it like a traditional treatment on my edges to loosen them and keep them even more tamed.

    Still very happy with this treatment. I do it every 2 months.
     
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    I think that the thing to be wary of when it comes to keratin treatments is the amount of passes at such a high temperature. I had a huge setback because I followed the instructions on the box that said use 5-7 passes on each section at 400 degrees. I naively thought that there was something in the treatment that was protecting my hair from heat damage. Although I was trying to heat train my hair at the time, the cuticle was weakened by excessive heat and eventually broke off at the line of demarcation despite hard protein treatments. Looking back on it, I would have used no more than 2 passes per section and only have done the treatment 3-4 times a year.
     
  6. Britt

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    Thanks my dear :yep:
    I feel the exact way.
    Truthfully, what I'm afraid of is getting bad heat damage and then being stuck with fully giving up natural styles. It's sorta like I'm preparing my mind for a light relaxer.
    I so love the idea of doing a bun, raking a comb through easily, not feeling anxious about washing and then twisting for another 45 minutes. Having to retwist mid week. I'm still thinking about it :yep:
     
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    Another thing I wonder with the keratin treatment, is deep conditioner able to penetrate still? I remember when I did the Design Essentials one a few years ago when I was transitioning, when I would wash my hair I could feel a coating on it. I'm wondering if I would have to use a keratin shampoo and conditioner?
     
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  8. ManeStreet

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    I like that the application process looks a lot less time consuming. How does it compare to the traditional keratins that you used to do? Is it as strong? any fumes etc? Thanks for all the info.
     
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    I would say it gives similar results...maybe a little weaker but definitely noticeable imo. Biggest difference is that this wears off much quicker. It smells a bit like a keratin but with the processing cap on you dont smell it and barley anything when heat tools are involved. I tried applying the nutree like a keratin with no rinsing and it was like a regular keratin ( tears, fumes etc)

    Tips for any one intrested

    Dont rinse out all the product after letting it sit.

    Once you have applied several times, dont flat iron the ends more than 1-2 times so they bounce back.
     
  10. tapioca_pudding

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    :wavey:

    I really think I'm going to order this today. My hair gets neglected largely because I just don't have time.

    I do want to keep curl on my ends for my braid-outs, so I will definitely be following your advice above @Napp. Thank you for bringing this product to us. :hug2:
     
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    So I was on the fence between the Nutree and the Uncurly. I think I'm going to start with the Nutree and see what results I get after several uses. If it gives me the manageability/flexibility that I need, I'll just rock with that every few months/as needed.

    Very excited! Once it arrives in the mail, I'll do the treatment then schedule an appointment for a really good trim to close out 2019/start 2020 with fresh ends. :yay: I'll update once I've applied the treatment with my thoughts.

    ETA, I used the code NUTREE15 at checkout and received 15% off. Got everything for $38.25.
     
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    So I bought and tried the bottox (thanks for the code).

    I was gonna try applying it like a bkt but it was already super late and I knew now was not the time to be experimenting like that. So I left it in for a little over 45mins and then rinsed it (my hair felt super soft). I tried to leave in a good amount but I'm not sure honestly, I added a touch back to the sections at the front and back just in case (like a finger touch amount really). Then I went ahead and blowdried and flatironed it, which was easier than expected. I didn't want straight hair, just slightly looser curls so I sprayed my (rapidly expanding because of the ridiculous humidity) hair with FRW and put in my leave-in and went to bed.

    Hair is still soft and not as puffy as it would've normally been in this weather, so I'm going to watch it for the next month and see how I feel about maybe treating it like a proper bkt next time or if I'll continue using it as a DC.

    Thanks for the recs guys.
     
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    Did a cowash and blowdry today. My hair was definitely much easier to deal with. Not like miles and miles better, it still got tangled during the week but the blowdry process went by much much faster and my hair still feels smooth.
     
  14. Napp

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    I haven't had a chance to do a treatment for a while and my hair texture is much tighter. when its wet its much more behaved except the very root but when 100% dry it all looks like I've never put anything in my hair. i have an inch of roots that are poofy and don't curl at all unless i use a heavy gel like ecostyler/wetline. I don't have much breakage though so that's good. I'm going to watch and see how long i can go in between until finally get the chance to put it back in regularly.
     
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    I need to go ahead and buy that Nutree hair Botox. My treatments have worn out and the reversion is impossible. It’s humid and raining daily in Houston, so I’m looking pretty bummy unless I wear a wig. I have no curl pattern 4bc, so I just look frizzy and unkept when I wear my hair out unstraightened.
     
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    My treatment has also worn off. It last for maybe a touch over 3 weeks. This weekend I'm going to apply it similar to a regular keratin (blowdry and flat iron it into the hair then wash again) to see how I really feel about it and whether I just need to switch over to proper keratin.
     
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    I'm buying the big jar of nutree this weekend. It was best went I did it every 1-2 months. Life was easier with the nutree in my hair. I am going to apply it like traditional keratin too. I dont have time for games with my hair anymore.
     
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    Ok so i did this. Of course it didn't even attempt to stand up to the humidity so my hair is frizz city. I did at least use it as an opportunity to trim. I was going to rinse it out but I had to go out so I'll either rinse today or be lazy and wait till next weekend.
     
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    8D2DA28B-F497-4801-A4DD-5FFDD96C3579.jpeg The Ion Keratin treatment was easy to apply and had no fumes. I only wore gloves for the application not the blow dry. Even the clarifying shampoo was wonderful. The comb glided through my hair during the naked blow dry. I’ll wash it Thursday and see how it feels then...
     
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    Did you use enough product?
     
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    I think so. My strands were all covered but not enough to be oversaturated. And my hair is still smooth so i know it helped, but I live in the tropics and our humidity is next level so.
     
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    I just did my first wash. My hair feels really sleek and smooth. Kinks are slightly looser too. I’m deep conditioning now with keracare humecto. I love the way it smells. One of my coworkers in college was a hairstylist and put me on Humecto in 2001
     
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    Prettymetty Natural/4b/medium-coarse

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    99667546-3D13-4CE2-A741-10039E6EDDB6.jpeg Here’s my review of Ion keratin: It has a light scent, no fumes. It’s watery, but easy to apply. My hands were slightly chapped, but that was the only side effect. My softness was revealed instantly. After the first wash the softness just intensified. The true test was that I partied on the patio for about 3 hours with no frizz. I’m sold. My hair isn’t the sleekest, but for me to not have any reversion on a patio in Houston is Priceless. I may go get a bigger bottle and the supporting shampoo.

    Pic from last night
     
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    Finally got around to rinsing the treatment in my first shampoo. The wash process was pretty easy and my hair took only 2 hours to dry which may be due to the Rx or to the fact that I didn't use much in the way of a leave-in. I think I will progress to an actual keratin treatment. I'll see how the price comes down for black friday.
     
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    Prettymetty Natural/4b/medium-coarse

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    AF390201-1D3F-48AC-A3A8-3C339E54EED3.jpeg I did another Ion treatment last week. Today I bought the shampoo and conditioner to maintain my sleekness. I’ll shampoo either tonight or in the morning

    Eta this is definitely the best and least expensive keratin treatment. The big bottle of keratin smoothing treatment was $20 and the maintenance shampoo and conditioner were $20 together. #winning 6 treatments for $40!
     
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    Would you rank it higher than the OK keratin? Is it stronger and does it last longer?
     
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    Yes it is way easier to apply. No fumes or chapped hands. With the maintenance products it should last 3 months, but I’m prepared to do it monthly just incase it doesn’t
     
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    Ok Keratin worked better the first time I used it. The next 2 times I used a different flat iron and I just discovered that it only goes to 410 degrees. That’s why none of my keratin treatments were sealing properly. I had to go back to my old faithful babyliss pro. It should be smooth sailing from here. Pardon the pun
     

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