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Keratin Treatment Support Thread

MzSwift

Texlaxed, loccing again
I'm strongly considering this. Been thinking about it for a while. I know a stylist that does it and she requires a consultation so she can determine which one is best for my hair. Ughhhh.... I feel so conflicted.
It's not permanent so maybe it's worth a try. I know how it is to have a new little one and not enough time for haircare. If it'll make your life easier, I think it's worth it! Especially because it's only temporary. If nothing else, maybe it'll make it easier to throw your hair up in a bun.
 

Babysaffy

Well-Known Member
I feel the same way as you both.
I now have a little one and simply don't have the time or interest to devote to twist outs and detangling. I'm.this.close to getting a relaxer and I strongly don't want to do that again. My stylist doesn't do keratin. I want to be able to go treat myself to frequent wash n sets at the dominicans or simply wash my hair and detangle with ease at home and blow dry it.
Same!! With me I have little ones, a big one and a demanding job- I've been fully natural now for almost two years transitioned for two years before that and I'm sick of throwing my thick natural hair into a ponytail or bun every darn day with only a curly side bang to show off my texture. It isn't my best look. I've always had fairly long hair and I used to wear it down a lot when I was relaxed so I haven't quite felt myself all these years.
My hair is too thick and wash and go doesn't work. I don't have time to play or experiment with my hair plus I workout and sweat almost every other day.

This all sounds so negative but these treatments sound like a great way to achieve the ease of styling I have been looking for and I'm glad I've ventured into the hair forums again. Will do my research and keep an eye on this thread.
 

ManeStreet

Well-Known Member
Ladies I think I have found a nice temporary treatment. I've been using Nutree Hair Botox and I'm in love. It gives me curl control but wears off in around 2-3 months with frequent washing. it's super easy to apply as well and less heat is needed as your hair doesn't have to be covered in product like a traditional bkt. It's a winner!
@Napp with the curl control does it help mostly with smoothing and frizz or does it loosen the curl pattern too? If so by how much?
 

Napp

Ms. Nobody
@Napp with the curl control does it help mostly with smoothing and frizz or does it loosen the curl pattern too? If so by how much?
It can do both. I mainly use it for control letting it sit for 40 mins, rinse, blow dry. And flat iron. I noticed the more product you leave it in the more it can loosen the curl pattern. I actually apply it like a traditional treatment on my edges to loosen them and keep them even more tamed.

Still very happy with this treatment. I do it every 2 months.
 

icsonia22

Well-Known Member
I think that the thing to be wary of when it comes to keratin treatments is the amount of passes at such a high temperature. I had a huge setback because I followed the instructions on the box that said use 5-7 passes on each section at 400 degrees. I naively thought that there was something in the treatment that was protecting my hair from heat damage. Although I was trying to heat train my hair at the time, the cuticle was weakened by excessive heat and eventually broke off at the line of demarcation despite hard protein treatments. Looking back on it, I would have used no more than 2 passes per section and only have done the treatment 3-4 times a year.
 

Britt

Well-Known Member
It's not permanent so maybe it's worth a try. I know how it is to have a new little one and not enough time for haircare. If it'll make your life easier, I think it's worth it! Especially because it's only temporary. If nothing else, maybe it'll make it easier to throw your hair up in a bun.
Thanks my dear :yep:
I feel the exact way.
Truthfully, what I'm afraid of is getting bad heat damage and then being stuck with fully giving up natural styles. It's sorta like I'm preparing my mind for a light relaxer.
I so love the idea of doing a bun, raking a comb through easily, not feeling anxious about washing and then twisting for another 45 minutes. Having to retwist mid week. I'm still thinking about it :yep:
 

Britt

Well-Known Member
Another thing I wonder with the keratin treatment, is deep conditioner able to penetrate still? I remember when I did the Design Essentials one a few years ago when I was transitioning, when I would wash my hair I could feel a coating on it. I'm wondering if I would have to use a keratin shampoo and conditioner?
 

ManeStreet

Well-Known Member
It can do both. I mainly use it for control letting it sit for 40 mins, rinse, blow dry. And flat iron. I noticed the more product you leave it in the more it can loosen the curl pattern. I actually apply it like a traditional treatment on my edges to loosen them and keep them even more tamed.

Still very happy with this treatment. I do it every 2 months.
I like that the application process looks a lot less time consuming. How does it compare to the traditional keratins that you used to do? Is it as strong? any fumes etc? Thanks for all the info.
 

Napp

Ms. Nobody
I like that the application process looks a lot less time consuming. How does it compare to the traditional keratins that you used to do? Is it as strong? any fumes etc? Thanks for all the info.
I would say it gives similar results...maybe a little weaker but definitely noticeable imo. Biggest difference is that this wears off much quicker. It smells a bit like a keratin but with the processing cap on you dont smell it and barley anything when heat tools are involved. I tried applying the nutree like a keratin with no rinsing and it was like a regular keratin ( tears, fumes etc)

Tips for any one intrested

Dont rinse out all the product after letting it sit.

Once you have applied several times, dont flat iron the ends more than 1-2 times so they bounce back.
 

tapioca_pudding

Well-Known Member
I would say it gives similar results...maybe a little weaker but definitely noticeable imo. Biggest difference is that this wears off much quicker. It smells a bit like a keratin but with the processing cap on you dont smell it and barley anything when heat tools are involved. I tried applying the nutree like a keratin with no rinsing and it was like a regular keratin ( tears, fumes etc)

Tips for any one intrested

Dont rinse out all the product after letting it sit.

Once you have applied several times, dont flat iron the ends more than 1-2 times so they bounce back.
:wavey:

I really think I'm going to order this today. My hair gets neglected largely because I just don't have time.

I do want to keep curl on my ends for my braid-outs, so I will definitely be following your advice above @Napp. Thank you for bringing this product to us. :hug2:
 
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tapioca_pudding

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So I was on the fence between the Nutree and the Uncurly. I think I'm going to start with the Nutree and see what results I get after several uses. If it gives me the manageability/flexibility that I need, I'll just rock with that every few months/as needed.

Very excited! Once it arrives in the mail, I'll do the treatment then schedule an appointment for a really good trim to close out 2019/start 2020 with fresh ends. :yay: I'll update once I've applied the treatment with my thoughts.

ETA, I used the code NUTREE15 at checkout and received 15% off. Got everything for $38.25.
 
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imaginary

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So I bought and tried the bottox (thanks for the code).

I was gonna try applying it like a bkt but it was already super late and I knew now was not the time to be experimenting like that. So I left it in for a little over 45mins and then rinsed it (my hair felt super soft). I tried to leave in a good amount but I'm not sure honestly, I added a touch back to the sections at the front and back just in case (like a finger touch amount really). Then I went ahead and blowdried and flatironed it, which was easier than expected. I didn't want straight hair, just slightly looser curls so I sprayed my (rapidly expanding because of the ridiculous humidity) hair with FRW and put in my leave-in and went to bed.

Hair is still soft and not as puffy as it would've normally been in this weather, so I'm going to watch it for the next month and see how I feel about maybe treating it like a proper bkt next time or if I'll continue using it as a DC.

Thanks for the recs guys.
 

imaginary

Well-Known Member
Did a cowash and blowdry today. My hair was definitely much easier to deal with. Not like miles and miles better, it still got tangled during the week but the blowdry process went by much much faster and my hair still feels smooth.
 

Napp

Ms. Nobody
I haven't had a chance to do a treatment for a while and my hair texture is much tighter. when its wet its much more behaved except the very root but when 100% dry it all looks like I've never put anything in my hair. i have an inch of roots that are poofy and don't curl at all unless i use a heavy gel like ecostyler/wetline. I don't have much breakage though so that's good. I'm going to watch and see how long i can go in between until finally get the chance to put it back in regularly.
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
I need to go ahead and buy that Nutree hair Botox. My treatments have worn out and the reversion is impossible. It’s humid and raining daily in Houston, so I’m looking pretty bummy unless I wear a wig. I have no curl pattern 4bc, so I just look frizzy and unkept when I wear my hair out unstraightened.
 

imaginary

Well-Known Member
My treatment has also worn off. It last for maybe a touch over 3 weeks. This weekend I'm going to apply it similar to a regular keratin (blowdry and flat iron it into the hair then wash again) to see how I really feel about it and whether I just need to switch over to proper keratin.
 

imaginary

Well-Known Member
My treatment has also worn off. It last for maybe a touch over 3 weeks. This weekend I'm going to apply it similar to a regular keratin (blowdry and flat iron it into the hair then wash again) to see how I really feel about it and whether I just need to switch over to proper keratin.
Ok so i did this. Of course it didn't even attempt to stand up to the humidity so my hair is frizz city. I did at least use it as an opportunity to trim. I was going to rinse it out but I had to go out so I'll either rinse today or be lazy and wait till next weekend.
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Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
I just did my first wash. My hair feels really sleek and smooth. Kinks are slightly looser too. I’m deep conditioning now with keracare humecto. I love the way it smells. One of my coworkers in college was a hairstylist and put me on Humecto in 2001
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
99667546-3D13-4CE2-A741-10039E6EDDB6.jpeg Here’s my review of Ion keratin: It has a light scent, no fumes. It’s watery, but easy to apply. My hands were slightly chapped, but that was the only side effect. My softness was revealed instantly. After the first wash the softness just intensified. The true test was that I partied on the patio for about 3 hours with no frizz. I’m sold. My hair isn’t the sleekest, but for me to not have any reversion on a patio in Houston is Priceless. I may go get a bigger bottle and the supporting shampoo.

Pic from last night
 

imaginary

Well-Known Member
Finally got around to rinsing the treatment in my first shampoo. The wash process was pretty easy and my hair took only 2 hours to dry which may be due to the Rx or to the fact that I didn't use much in the way of a leave-in. I think I will progress to an actual keratin treatment. I'll see how the price comes down for black friday.
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
AF390201-1D3F-48AC-A3A8-3C339E54EED3.jpeg I did another Ion treatment last week. Today I bought the shampoo and conditioner to maintain my sleekness. I’ll shampoo either tonight or in the morning

Eta this is definitely the best and least expensive keratin treatment. The big bottle of keratin smoothing treatment was $20 and the maintenance shampoo and conditioner were $20 together. #winning 6 treatments for $40!
 

imaginary

Well-Known Member
View attachment 453763 I did another Ion treatment last week. Today I bought the shampoo and conditioner to maintain my sleekness. I’ll shampoo either tonight or in the morning

Eta this is definitely the best and least expensive keratin treatment. The big bottle of keratin smoothing treatment was $20 and the maintenance shampoo and conditioner were $20 together. #winning 6 treatments for $40!
Would you rank it higher than the OK keratin? Is it stronger and does it last longer?
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
Ok Keratin worked better the first time I used it. The next 2 times I used a different flat iron and I just discovered that it only goes to 410 degrees. That’s why none of my keratin treatments were sealing properly. I had to go back to my old faithful babyliss pro. It should be smooth sailing from here. Pardon the pun
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
I did another keratin treatment last night. Ion brand. I shampood twice with Ion Keratin shampoo. Air dried for a couple hours then applied the treatment all over my detangled hair and two strand twisted it (last night.) This morning my hair was still damp so I blew it out. Then I straightened it on 430 with 5 passes per section. I may hit it a few more times tomorrow just to make sure it takes.
This was my first time applying it this way. On damp hair and letting it air dry... I’ll let y’all know how it goes after my first wash . This was definitely the easiest application.
 

dancinstallion

Well-Known Member
I did another keratin treatment last night. Ion brand. I shampood twice with Ion Keratin shampoo. Air dried for a couple hours then applied the treatment all over my detangled hair and two strand twisted it (last night.) This morning my hair was still damp so I blew it out. Then I straightened it on 430 with 5 passes per section. I may hit it a few more times tomorrow just to make sure it takes.
This was my first time applying it this way. On damp hair and letting it air dry... I’ll let y’all know how it goes after my first wash . This was definitely the easiest application.
How long are your treatments lasting?
 
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