Amber Guyger Trial Begins

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  1. luthiengirlie

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    Allowing myself to look at this difftentlu
    I dont personally know Mr. Jean and his family have no right to tell them how to conduct themselves. THIS IS THIER PAIN.
    Yes I have strong feelings about it
    Yes they didnt do what I would.
    But this is.. THIER PAIN.
    They did what THEY needed to do.
    It ain't ABOUT US in that sense.

    Now that JUDGE THO
     
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    I haven’t watched the videos, because watching that kind of thing makes me nauseous, but did the murderer even ask for forgiveness? It seems to me that she plead not guilty, tried to blame the victim for his death and lied about the fact that he died alone on the floor in his apartment without so much as an attempt to save him or an apology from the woman who shot him. She was more worried about her job than about the confused, dying man bleeding out on the floor.

    I have read the Bible and forgiveness is for people who repent and are willing to make restitution and accept punishment. I’m betting that she could’ve gotten a plea bargain manslaughter deal for 10 years and spared everyone this trial. She’s not sorry. Maybe after a few years in jail she will be, but I doubt it. She’s a horrible person. The racist jokes, the married boyfriend, the reckless disregard for others and lack of compassion. :nono: I don’t feel the least bit sorry for her.
     
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    ^^ wow...now that hug makes sense. Disgusting.
     
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    I can agree with this. Being close to someone who lost a loved one in a mass shooting, not even going to question how his family is trying to make it make sense. He may regret that gesture later on. Didn't realize his age before. Still kind of bothers me.

    What bothers me more is the judge and bailiff. I don't understand why they felt the need to do that.
     
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    I won't judge the brother but I am absolutely disgusted by the judge.
     
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    Same with me. He's an 18 year old kid. I can't tell him how to grieve. I think he did what he felt was in his heart, despite him knowing everyone else didn't agree. No judgment on the kid at all from me.

    Now the grown lady stroking Amber's hair? Seriously, now she needs a talking to and I hope her family and friends laid into her about that.

    The judge? I think it was all for show. I don't care about her hugging and giving the Bible, but why not wait and go visit her in jail if you're that moved and want to preach a word to her. She was still in her robe and should have kept impartial or only act with compassion towards Botham's family.
     
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    If she was to serve out all ten, then sure. She will be eligible for parole after 5 and I'm positive she will get it. That's not enough for admittedly taking someone's life when she had options to call for backup, texting her lover instead of doing CPR, and outright stating that she's a racist in her texts.

    I think some of those celebrities are getting in the 5 year range for cheating on the SAT. People get 5 years for tax evasion and food stamp fraud. Very rare to get 5 years for intentionally shooting someone and not following her training to call for backup. I think I can guarantee that it would have been more than 5 if she had killed a white woman.

    Yes I know she got 10, but it's up to the parole board for her to get out after only 5 years. She's a cop and a half-blonde white woman. She will only serve 5 and be out at the age of 36 in the prime of her life. Meanwhile in 5 years, Botham's family will still be in the thick of grieving.
     
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    NARRATOR: They didn't come through.
     
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    Yes! I agree with all this.
    After watching everything..pretrial interviews etc, I think the brothers gesture doesn't reflect the whole family's position. They CLEARLY wanted a conviction and jail time for Amber.
    For me 10 years is another slap on the wrist for a cop. They aren't treated the same. They can kill us and either don't get charged or get BS sentences. Like the cop that shot that kid 16 times getting a 6 year sentence. Really?
    Us not getting angry and forgiving our murderers is why things will never change. The next one will be the same And there will be a next one. This didn't set any type of example.
    Amber lied about what happened and we know she did. She failed her first polygraph, she couldn't explain how he was coming at her from the window but ended up dead by the couch, how the shot that hit the wall ended up in the path it did and landed in the wall by his couch. Both she and Martin tried to destroy evidence, she never once said she identified herself as a police officer, didn't render aid, she was racist and on and on.
    We can't expect change if we don't demand change.
    My first child died from liver failure. My 2nd child was killed by a teen texting and driving who lost control of his car and ran over her. He was never charged.
    I've spent so much time trying to get distracted driver laws changed in our state. I won't ever be able to forgive but I can concede that's an individual thing. His parents got to take him home to a warm bed. I got to send my daughter to a cold morgue in a body bag. Nope, unforgivable.
     
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    I'm christian and I AM PSST! Sorry I am not there yet.

    I don't believe she thought it was her apartment - not for one minute . . .but if she did, if I lock my door and eave home, when I return and the door is ajar-ed, there's no way I am going in.side.

    All of those racist text messages and comments should've been allowed in the court - It could've been tried as a hate crime.

    Now the brother, he gets a pass because he is not american and probably don't understand out race relation. so if that is how he deals with his grief, God bless him. God help him to heal.

    BUT THE JUDGE and balif, hold your position and stay in your place! WTH! You don't need to be running up on murderers and stroking their hair, consoling them and hugging their necks. That crap set us as a people back 40 years! They don't do that when blacks murder other blacks.

    10 years for murdering an almost picture perfect citizen! I am appalled.

    I LOVED the mother Jean's speech and elegance. I loved the father's speech too, they are in my prayers.

    Amber's mother on the other hand, how old is she?

    Dallas needs to terminate Officer Riviera immediately, before quick can get ready.
     
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    Of course she's not going to do all 10 years that's why I said she'd sit in jail 4-6 years on a 10 year sentence. It doesn't matter what time she would have got for shooting a white woman cuz odds are she wouldn't have shot a white woman eating ice cream in what she thought was her apartment. She shot a black man and because she's white and a cop so her white woman punishment is 10 years and a hug from the judge. She's also going to go to a low security white collar prison where the guards who are also cops will take care of her for those 4-6 years of time she does.

    Life is only fair in this country if you are white and male or have the support of white males.
     
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    The boy is a son to immigrants. I will say for myself as an immigrant I don’t quite understand race relations in this country and experience it in a different way. I will attribute his behavior to his youth and being the son of immigrants. I know it’s not the same for all immigrants but that’s generally what I see.

    I don’t begrudge him for dealing with it the way he sees fit. It is his loss.

    However, the unfortunate fallout of his actions is that instead of the media focusing on his mother’s outrage and how she demanded change and justice from the PD....the brother’s actions have become the highlight.

    It is the focus of all the media and is being widely shared in social media. It is also being co-opted as hey, “the family isn’t upset so why are the rest of you?” It basically settles the matter as “handled.”

    The brother’s testimony will also absolutely be cited during her parole...he may even show up on her behalf. It shall be interesting to see what he feels like after being out in the adult world.

    As for Christianity grace doesn’t absolve accountability in this world.
     
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    She's going to have a multi-million dollar book/movie deal after she's released early for good behavior.
     
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    welp
     
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    Between the BW bailiff stroking her hair, the brother hugging her, the Daddy wanting to be her friend, and the judge coming off the bench to console her, I am utterly mystified.

    The only silver lining, for me, is that I don't feel sad anymore and therefore I'm back to being carefree.
     
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    girl funds are going to pour into her account, she will walk out with BIG BUCKS.

    There is a such thing as conditional parole = 2.5 years on a 10 year sentence
    and does she qualify for bail while appealing her sentence?
     
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    I missed the Daddy saying that he wanted to be her friend. Why?? I don't get it at all.
     
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    WTH! surely this is not true. . . I mean I was already thinking that maybe Brandt had a thing for YT women.
     
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    I read the quote and I wonder if it was taken out of context. Maybe it’s my mind not being able to comprehend this when his mom is still hurting.

    He said:

    “I’m not really surprised because we know how we raised him… The Holy Spirit was working,” Bertram said. “I’d like to become your friend at some point… I think I have the ability to do it and I would like to be a friend despite my loss. That’s why we are Christians.”

    Was he commenting on what his son said/ did or actually saying he wanted to befriend Amber?

    I guess I just cannot wrap my mind around this. Especially it happening so soon after the trial ended.
     
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    "I forgive you" "Can I give her a hug?" :huh:

    This is reminiscent of that woman from 'Dirty John'. Not only did she forgive the man who killed her daughter, she took the stand and testified on his behalf. What's wrong with these people?!
     
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    Dis tew much.
    I got too emotionally invested in this case. Hopefully the circus that has followed will die down. They're overselling now
    At least mom said if she forgives or not is between her and God. At least she's speaking out over the issues surrounding her son's death.
    If they wanted to make friends and have babies with Amber why the civil cases and outrage and calls for justice. Just a mindset I don't have I guess.
    People out here marching and protesting for you and you talking about making friends with a murderer. Smh... puzzled
     
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    I agree, I think it may have started off as a mistake but once she got in that apartment and saw a black man she did what she always wanted to do, but thought she could get away with it.
     
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    I agree. I'd say about half of my immigrant friends (Indian, Nigerian, Ghanian, Caribbean) do not see race in America the same as I do an never will. I haven't figured out if that's to their advantage or not. Sometimes they don't pick up on the subtle things that I do and I guess that kind of keeps their life a bit simpler and carefree somewhat? On the other hand, they can get caught up in some circumstances quickly due to thinking that some people are their friends when they're probably not.

    I will say I found it a little odd that Botham's best friend was a white woman. I know Harding is a PWI, but all of his pics from Harding shown on yesterday only included white friends.
     
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    I can concede the race component but the immigrant thing doesn't account for hugging somebody who killed your brother. Not a cousin or uncle, aunt but the person you grew up in a house with. I don't even like two out of three of my brothers and I just can't picture myself at any point in my life hugging somebody who harmed them let alone killed one of them.

    My little brother who I love....somebody woulda got hugged with a 2 piece no biscuits.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I was listening to NPR today, and heard a man talk about this and was flabbergasted...

    He basically says .. the boy is from St. Lucia, that was a "St Lucian hug"... (Whet's a St. Lucian hug? o_O ) .... and that blacks from the Caribbean don't see things the same way due to racism in this country. So that was a cultural thing now? What that boy did was no different from Charleston worshipers.

    Well, he had to be a YT dude because Caribbean folks have also experienced slavery and racism and can relate, esp. if they've lived in the US long enough. He needs to have several seats...!
     
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