Discussion in 'Education' started by Farida, Aug 18, 2008.
LoveisYou, thanks for this info about David Boies.
Bumping this thread! I am a second year law student in NYC (I'm in a joint JD/MBA program, so this year was my year in residence at the business school), but next semester I'll be taking a mix of business and law courses. Excited to have found this thread! Where my fellow law students/alums at?
Hi @alex114, I am law school alum/lawyer. What type of law do you plan to practice? Do you want to remain in New York after graduation?
Wow, I had no clue! @Sashaa08 I plan to practice corporate law, and I'll either be in New York or London, based on how this summer goes. I'm most interested in Capital Markets and M&A (the hours in M&A are a bit of a concern though )
Transactional law, especially towards the end of quarters or SEC filing timelines will mean long days. My recommendation is for your 2L summer to be at the largest firm in NYC where you can get accepted. Since you are doing a dual degree program that means you get your degree in 4 years (assuming you are a full-time student). Second, join NY bar association and attend mixers/events for the M&A or capital markets group. Also join a bar association for women of color. Also, consider a federal clerkship. It is very grade specific and I don't know what your grades are, but if you can get a federal one, get one. If your GPA is outside of the criteria to land a circuit and SDNY clerkship, then I STRONGLY recommend a bankruptcy clerkship in Delaware or another major city. Most large corporate firms heavily recruit judicial clerks so it gives you another shot at landing at a larger firm. There is also a "Just the Beginning" clerkship program that helps diverse candidates land federal clerkships during their 3L year.
For corporate law, you really have to be at a large or midsize firm at least initially.
I already know which firm I'm going to-- I was a 1L summer associate at the firm, and got a return offer for 2L there! I'll be between their New York and London offices. My degree program is accelerated, so it's only 3 years long. I'm a member of Association for Black Women Attorneys here in NYC.
You are on top of it!!! That is awesome.
Thank you so much! In terms of the day to day, I've basically resigned myself to long days, because as you said, virtually all transactional practice areas at a firm require long hours. I just noticed that even within the big NYC firms my friends and I summered at, M&A is notorious lol.
But you know this going in, so you won't be caught off guard. I mean partners (and clients) feel that if you're getting paid $160k+, that you should be available at all times and that you should "earn your keep." I am in academia now, and while I miss some of the work and attorneys I worked with, I DO NOT MISS BILLABLE HOURS!
The first-year associate salary is now 180k, but I'll be starting as a second year (salary and bonus wise) because of the MBA! (I'll need it to live in Manhattan+my mother is retiring the year I graduate from law school )
I’ll be starting a Bachelor of Laws (LLB) programme in September. I very excited and nervous at the same time.
I already hold a Bachelor degree in another discipline from a U.S. institution, therefore I’ll be doing the Graduate Entry/Senior Status LLB. It will be via Distance Learning and I will have to travel for my exams.
Edited: After reading through this thread I’ve realized most (if not all) are based in the U.S.
Where are the U.K. Law students in here? Don’t be shy, come out,come out!
@Soaring Eagle I'm actually in the UK this summer for work!