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spinoff: high porosity hair

youwillrise

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Just a bit of a survey and hopefully we can get some helpful tips going just like the low porosity thread.

Describe your hair? (fine/med/thick strands? Dense? Not very dense? Relaxed, natural, texturized, texlaxed? etc and so on)
what are your hair's indicators of high porosity?
what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair?
what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid?
how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey?
 

faithVA

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aaah, I've never had anything worthy of a spin off before youwillrise :lol:

I hope you ladies get some great insights. I will lurk in here. You never know, I may learn something thats helpful for us lo po ladies. :yep:
 

youwillrise

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aaah, I've never had anything worthy of a spin off before youwillrise :lol:

I hope you ladies get some great insights. I will lurk in here. You never know, I may learn something thats helpful for us lo po ladies. :yep:

lol...come onnn...you're totally spinoff worthy. Like perfect strangers and family matters.
 
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virtuenow

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Describe your hair? thick strands, densely spread

Relaxed, natural, texturized, texlaxed? Natural

what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? Hair never gets wet, water beads on my hair, conditioners and water will not penetrate or stay, hair will not hold moisture; relaxers never took to my hair-- think thats a low porosity indidcator though(?)

what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair?
Weekly protein-moisture balanced DC--> Aubrey Organics GPB; oil rinses w/castor oil; lo-poo (diluted shampoos on scalp only); and pre-poo treatments (w/aloe vera juice & coconut oil)

what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? everything else, ACV rinses (apple cider vinegar), Nexus Humectress, Nioxin, Aveda producsts, Cholestorol, Aussie Moist, Trader Joes, Shea Moisture, Curls, the list goes on.

how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? Hair always breaks off once it reaches a decent length (APL). The strands have suffered for as long as they can take it in complete dryness, hay hair status; then they just break and start over again
 
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grownwomanaz

Love and Harmony
Describe your hair? (fine/med/thick strands? Dense? Not very dense? Relaxed, natural,
texturized, texlaxed? etc and so on) I'm natural APL-BSB, not very dense, but med-thick strands.

what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? Doesn't hold moisture, frizzy with reddish brown appearance. The majority of my hair is black.

what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair? PC before DC and aloe vera juice have made a huge difference in terms of moisture retention for me. Also, finger combing helps conceal/contain lol the frizz for me.

what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? Any thing I leave in my hair can not contain disodium, this may be a no brainer to most lol. Also, I believe what caused my hair to be porous is a combo of steaming and the tangle teezer. They may not be the only contributors, but they sure had something to do with it.

how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? Well, I'm in the process of narrowing down what my hair actually likes. My hair likes PC, AOHSR, AOGPB, oils, and Wen. I think I have a higher than average growth, but I've have had to cut frequently in an effort to get rid of the porous hair. I've been dealing with this issue for about 18 months. My hair has improved greatly since I stopped using the TT and steaming. The porous hair is mostly in the back on both sides about the lower 1/3. I'm slowly but surely cutting it away.__________________
 

manter26

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Describe your hair? fine strands; Dense; natural 4a

what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? Cuticle feels open. Hair is not smooth to the touch or silky. extremely frizzy- see siggie. Takes a long time to dry. I have natural brown hair and even though I've colored my hair I can tell the non colored parts are lighted. I guess it's sun-bleached easily.

what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair? Oils help and I do ACV rinses when needed. Castor oil gives me waves- couldn't believe it, but it's really too heavy for my hair.

what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? I once went overboard with the ACV and had to use baking soda

how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? Idk. My hair just doesn't feel nice sometimes.
 
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youwillrise

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my toin.


Describe your hair? (fine/med/thick strands? Dense? Not very dense? Relaxed, natural, texturized, texlaxed? etc and so on)
--- fine strands, low-medium density, natural.

what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? --- gets wet very easily, dries just as quickly, no amount of moisturizing, conditioning, deep conditioning, rinsing, sealing will help my hair stay moisturized for more than 2.5 minutes.

what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair? --- protein is my hair's best friend. i use it weekly in the form of diluted hydrolyzed keratin. i spray it before my dc or before my moisturizer. brings elasticity back to my hair and somehow, magically my moisturizing products work better and moisturizing properties last longer in my hair. ive also been using all natural products/ingredients and that has helped, too.

what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? --- most everything. my hair hates silicones, sulfates, even hates non-sulfate shampoos...there's a whole list of things.

how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? --- ive had a hard time retaining length. dont get me wrong, since ive been natural, ive grown longer than i ever have...but the fact that my hair cannot retain moisture as easily means that my ends eventually break off. fortunately, ive found ways to keep this from happening as much. hopefully we can keep it up.
 

manter26

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virtuenow said:
Describe your hair? thick strands, densely spread

Relaxed, natural, texturized, texlaxed? Natural

what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? Hair never gets wet, water beads on my hair, conditioners and water will not penetrate or stay, hair will not hold moisture; relaxers never took to my hair-- think thats a low porosity indidcator though(?)

what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair?
Weekly protein-moisture balanced DC--> Aubrey Organics GPB; oil rinses w/castor oil; lo-poo (diluted shampoos on scalp only); and pre-poo treatments (w/aloe vera juice & coconut oil)

what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? everything else, ACV rinses (apple cider vinegar), Nexus Humectress, Nioxin, Aveda producsts, Cholestorol, Aussie Moist, Trader Joes, Shea Moisture, Curls, the list goes on.

how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? Hair always breaks off once it reaches a decent length (APL). The strands have suffered for as long as they can take it in complete dryness, hay hair status; then they just break and start over again

This sounds like low porosity. Your cuticle is too closed.
 
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virtuenow

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Describe your hair? (fine/med/thick strands? Dense? Not very dense? Relaxed, natural,
texturized, texlaxed? etc and so on) I'm natural APL-BSB, not very dense, but med-thick strands.

what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? Doesn't hold moisture, frizzy with reddish brown appearance. The majority of my hair is black.

what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair? PC before DC and aloe vera juice have made a huge difference in terms of moisture retention for me. Also, finger combing helps conceal/contain lol the frizz for me.

what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? Any thing I leave in my hair can not contain disodium, this may be a no brainer to most lol. Also, I believe what caused my hair to be porous is a combo of steaming and the tangle teezer. They may not be the only contributors, but they sure had something to do with it.

how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? Well, I'm in the process of narrowing down what my hair actually likes. My hair likes PC, AOHSR, AOGPB, oils, and Wen. I think I have a higher than average growth, but I've have had to cut frequently in an effort to get rid of the porous hair. I've been dealing with this issue for about 18 months. My hair has improved greatly since I stopped using the TT and steaming. The porous hair is mostly in the back on both sides about the lower 1/3. I'm slowly but surely cutting it away.__________________
Good share. I also plan on cutting. I have had one year of healthy hair care that has centered on correcting lifelong porous (dry) issues. I will do one big chop to get rid of all the rest of my porous, rough, dry ends. I don't want those rough ends to creep up and taint the rest of me hair! I also stopped using the Tangle Teezer about a year ago.
 
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virtuenow

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This sounds like low porosity. Your cuticle too closed.

I know, the weird thing is, my hair seems to have characteristics of both high and low porosity. I can run my fingers down the last few inches of my hair and its so rough. That is a high porosity characteristic. One thing I know for sure, it does not get moisture! So, do high porosity people get wet hair? That is one of my big questions. My hair would look and feel so dry while it was wet. It would not get wet, ever. I can show you pictures of my soaking wet hair and you wouldn't believe me b/c it looks dry(except that I'm in a pool). It would feel its worst when it was wet. Then it dries w/in a few minutes after washing/conditioning. If anyone can help diagnose my hair (high or low?), then thanks!
 
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allmundjoi

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Strands: Fine to medium

Density: Medium density

State: Natural

Porosity indicators: dries quickly when wet

Methods: Always seal with a heavy oil-my love, castor oil. Seal over a water based cream (Shea Moisture Enhancing Smoothie or Qhemet Biologics BRBC. Spritz hair with water with a drop of acv. Occasional use of Roux Porosity control-not sure it really helps. Henna every 4-8weeks. Stay away from aloe vera juice alone-dries my hair out. Pure coconut oil by itself makes my hair stiff. Deep condish with heat after every wash-1-2x/wk. Cowash after workouts. NaCl dries my roots out something fierce. One thing that I have stopped doing unless necessary-rewetting/spritzing my hair with water, then adding cream and then sealing (for twists for a twistout). That lead to a little drier hair. Now I just add cream, seal with castor oil and twist.

Affect on hair growth: Hard to say other than my hair will dry out quickly and that will lead to breakage. I have been pretty diligent with moisture/sealing so...
 
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manter26

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I know, the weird thing is, my hair seems to have characteristics of both high and low porosity. I can run my fingers down the last few inches of my hair and its so rough. That is a high porosity characteristic. One thing I know for sure, it does not get moisture! So, do high porosity people get wet hair? That is one of my big questions. My hair would look and feel so dry while it was wet. It would not get wet, ever. I can show you pictures of my soaking wet hair and you wouldn't believe me b/c it looks dry(except that I'm in a pool). It would feel its worst when it was wet. Then it dries w/in a few minutes after washing/conditioning. If anyone can help diagnose my hair (high or low?), then thanks!


Most of what you've described sounds like low porosity. The rough ends might be splits. My soaking wet hair looks wet and it's wavy, maybe type 2c because it's weighed down with water. As it dries it shrinks...but it takes forever to dry. At this length, I need about 24 hours for any style.

My hair tends to be over moisturized and needs a ton of protein.
 
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PJaye

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I always thought I had high porosity hair, but now I’m confused after reading this thread because my hair has the following characteristics:


Low Porosity
Takes time to become fully saturated with water
Requires lots of moisture
Requires regular use of humectants
Requires very little protein (highly susceptible to protein overload)
Takes a bit of time to fully dry (at least 8 hours)


But, it also shows...


Normal Porosity
Able to absorb and retain water & other substances
Requires an occasional protein treatment (once every few months)
Regularly exists in a protein-moisture balanced state
Rarely becomes dry, and if it does, moisture levels are easily restored


As well as...


High Porosity
Overly absorbs water, color, & hair products
Requires lots of moisture
Responds well to emollients
Takes on color quickly, but it fades fast
Is fragile
Prone to breakage with too much water immersion
Easily frizzes and tangles
Loves oils and creamy moisturizers/sealants
Strand feels somewhat rough


My hair is similar to that of manter26 - it will straighten out to resemble waves rather than curls while wet because it’s being weighed down by the water, and will take forever to dry. However, it differs by not shrinking after it has fully dried (it forms curls but doesn't shrink much). It also reacts badly to too much protein/substances that behave like proteins. This is so confusing, but I can't wait to read more responses.
 

manter26

Well-Known Member
http://blackhairscience.com/fix_porous.html

Yes! It's Porous now Help Me Fix It!
Hair porosity refers to the hair's ability, or inability, to absorb water or chemicals deep into the cortex. Unfortunately, damage to the hair shaft can affect the hair's level of porosity. Too much porosity reduces the hair's ability to retain moisture, move well, and fight breakage. This article will help you understand why you should be concerned about your hair's porosity levels. It will also describe 4 simple ways that you can correct your hair's porosity issues.

Why Should You Correct Your Hair's Porosity?
In Part 1 of the Porosity Series, I explained that the more damage the cuticle has endured, the greater the hair's porosity will be. Moisture absorption and moisture loss are the primary concerns for porous hair.

Moisture Absorption and Loss
Though porous hair often feels dry and parched, it can absorb LOTS and LOTS of water. Normal hair can absorb roughly 30% of its weight in water when washed, while extremely porous hair can absorb up to 40-50% of its weight in water! Generally, the more porous your hair is, the more water or moisture it tends to absorb. Seems great, right? Not quite. There are two downsides to this high level of water absorption in hair with high porosity:

1.) High levels of moisture loss are also experienced over time. Highly porous hair absorbs more water when wet, but also loses even more as it dries. The moisture loss is a result of a shoddy cuticle layer barrier. Water flows in, and flows right on out just as easily. The cuticles are so lifted or damaged that they cannot adequately hold the moisture inside. This is why when porous hair is fully dried, it often feels swollen, puffy, and rough to the touch.

2.) .Hair lengthens as it absorbs water. The more water the hair absorbs, the more the hair will have to stretch to accommodate the water. Once the hair is stretched beyond its comfortable limit of roughly 30%, it grows weaker and weaker. If this process occurs too frequently, damage to the cuticle layer ensues, cortical damage follows, and then the hair eventually breaks under the stress. This is why it is also NOT advisable to keep the hair in a perpetual state of dampness. Moisture is beneficial to the hair, but too much moisture will damage and place stress on it.

Solutions for Correcting Your Porous Hair!
The issues of individual scale damage and raised cuticles are the primary issues associated with porous hair. If you can somehow patch the scale damage and close these cuticles layers, even a little, you will resolve a majority of your hair porosity issues.

Solution 1.) Protein Treatments for Porous Hair
The best , and perhaps easiest, way to patch up damaged cuticle layers is simply through light protein conditioning. Protein fills in gaps, binds to damaged places, and mends individual exterior scales along the cuticle. Regular protein conditioning improves the hair's porosity by reinforcing the cuticle layers and allowing the hair shaft to better hold on to the moisture it is given. You don't want to get too excited with the protein though because this can make the hair even drier. Products with wheat protein, like Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner, are good for shoring up the cuticle without leaving the hair too crunchy. Other more protein intensive treatments for correcting porous hair are Aphogee 2 Minute Keratin Reconstructor, CHI Keratin Mist, Motions CPR, and Organic Root Stimulator Mayo Treatment, and Cantu Shea Butter leave in conditioner. Remember, nothing can PERMANENTLY repair hair that is damaged, but treatments can go a long way for shoring up the weak spots and temporarily managing problems.

Solution 2.)Clear or Colored Rinses for Repairing Scale Damage and Porosity
Temporary clear or colored rinses also contain proteins that bind to and patch up the hair shaft. These rinses also give you the benefit of enhancing your current hair color, or adopting a temporary change. Clear rinses are best if you'd rather keep your current color and just add an enhanced element of shine. Sebastian's Colourshines and Jazzings all make great hair rinses that will help reduce your hair's porosity.

Solution 3.)Acidic Conditioners for Combating Overly Porous Hair
Some porosity problems can be temporarily resolved by applying a low pH solution or product, usually a conditioner. Most good deep conditioners are acidic products that will help restore and temporarily repair the cuticle layers. After treating the hair with a protein source listed in solution #1, your hair should be ready to receive and maintain the moisture you give it from your regular, weekly moisturizing deep conditioner.
When searching for a good acidic shampoo and conditioner brand for your porous hair, check the aisles for formulas for color treated hair. Typically, color treated products the most acidic. These products are extra gentle and help maintain the tightness of the cuticle layers in order to preserve hair colors and keep your vibrant shades from "leaching." Even if your hair is not color-treated, and you suspect that your hair may be porous, keep an eye out for products formulated for damaged or color treated hair.

Solution 4.)Acidic Rinses for Restoring Proper Cuticle Orientation
A weekly acidic rinse with Apple cider vinegar (ACV) is a common home remedy for treating porous hair. Simply combine 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar with 2 cups of cool water. Poor this mixture over the hair as a final rinse after shampooing and conditioning are complete. Rinse thoroughly in cool water. This acidic rinse will temporarily reduce porosity by constricting the cuticle scales. The ACV rinse will also enhance your hair's shine, eliminate tangles, and increase manageability.
ACV rinses should never make your hair feel hard. If the ACV rinse makes your hair feel hard or tangly after rinsing, your mixture needs to be diluted with more water.
 

grownwomanaz

Love and Harmony
manter26 Solutions for Correcting Your Porous Hair!
The issues of individual scale damage and raised cuticles are the primary issues associated with porous hair. If you can somehow patch the scale damage and close these cuticles layers, even a little, you will resolve a majority of your hair porosity issues.

This right here is what I focus on weekly in this order: Wen Fig (rinse with cold water), Roux PC, then protein, followed by aloe vera juice and overnight DC. I don't use heat at all for DCs anymore because I believe it was making matters worse with the opening and closing of the cuticles. Eventually, I'll be rid of the frizzy mess on my ends lol.
 

youwillrise

Well-Known Member
manter26 Solutions for Correcting Your Porous Hair!
The issues of individual scale damage and raised cuticles are the primary issues associated with porous hair. If you can somehow patch the scale damage and close these cuticles layers, even a little, you will resolve a majority of your hair porosity issues.

This right here is what I focus on weekly in this order: Wen Fig (rinse with cold water), Roux PC, then protein, followed by aloe vera juice and overnight DC. I don't use heat at all for DCs anymore because I believe it was making matters worse with the opening and closing of the cuticles. Eventually, I'll be rid of the frizzy mess on my ends lol.

How do you use your aloe vera? I have used it to help with detangling, but do you add it to your dc (mix in) so you spray it on before your dc? I have the lily of the desert brand and I mean...I feel like while it helps with detangling, it kinda makes my hair dryish if I leave it on. I'm not sure if its aloe vera juice in general or if it might be the preservatives in the product. I was going to buy some of the georges brand from vitamin shoppe the other day because it's preservative free, but decided to put it back haha. I still might try it.

I have also stopped using heat for my dc's. I have this big ol roll around hart hat dryer just taking up space in my room lol. I figure my cuticles are already open and raised, they don't need help from heat.

I was using porosity control for a minute some years back, but back then I wasn't even sure WHY I was using it and what my porosity level even was to be honest. I have started to use apple cider vinegar as a rinse (should have added that to my other post ha).

I've been thinking about trying this whole tea and/or coffee rinsing thing. I wonder how it'd affect my hair...hmmm
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn
Describe your hair? (fine/med/thick strands? Dense? Not very dense? Relaxed, natural, texturized, texlaxed? etc and so on)
4b natural, dense, fine/medium strands, color-treated

What are your hair's indicators of high porosity?
I always 'failed' the porosity test (when you put you hair in a cup of water to see if it floats or sinks). When I was relaxed, it only took 7-10 minutes for a mild to get me bone straight. Hair gets easily wet but dries just as quickly. Hair often feels rough, lots of tangles

What methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair?
Daily co washing and protective styles, regular protein treatments (my hair is partial to keratin:yep:), little to no heat

What have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid?
Avoiding silicones (they work great as sealants for me), lots of shampooing, certain oils don't work

How has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey?
Retention is always a challenge for me. It's very easy to tip the protein/moisture balance one way or the other and that can lead to lots of breakage. I also don't know if I will ever have "soft" hair.
I always thought I had high porosity hair, but now I’m confused after reading this thread because my hair has the following characteristics:


Low Porosity
Takes time to become fully saturated with water
Requires lots of moisture
Requires regular use of humectants
Requires very little protein (highly susceptible to protein overload)
Takes a bit of time to fully dry (at least 8 hours)


But, it also shows...


Normal Porosity
Able to absorb and retain water & other substances
Requires an occasional protein treatment (once every few months)
Regularly exists in a protein-moisture balanced state
Rarely becomes dry, and if it does, moisture levels are easily restored


As well as...


High Porosity
Overly absorbs water, color, & hair products
Requires lots of moisture
Responds well to emollients
Takes on color quickly, but it fades fast
Is fragile
Prone to breakage with too much water immersion
Easily frizzes and tangles
Loves oils and creamy moisturizers/sealants
Strand feels somewhat rough

Discerning between low and high porosity is easy when one focuses on the blue part IMO. A lot of people focus on their need for moisture (red), but both high and low porosity people need lots of moisture, but for different reasons.

My hair has always been highly porous and most of the characteristic describe my hair to a tee. The only thing that's different is the green. My hair's savior seems to be daily co washing. I've tried it at different times and for different reasons during my journey, but my hair always seems to do well with that regimen.
 

youwillrise

Well-Known Member
Interesting about the silicones thing...it's opposite for me. My hair wants to punch me in the face if I use silicones. I always end up going back to frequent conditionings....it helps give me that boost...my hair craves water/conditioner especially since it loses moisture so quickly. Of course we try to work on maintaining the moisture, but honestly for me it's not just that my hair loves it...I think I'm addicted to it hahaha.

I dc once a week, rinse/condition anywhere from 3 to 5 days a week...I baggy 5 or 6 nights a week...I do all I can to keep as much moisture in my hair as possible...along with my protein spray once or twice a week to help things along.

I've also been finding that using ceramides (for me, sunflower oil) has been helpful. Been thinking about trying some others. I usually mix my sunflower with castor.
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn
Interesting about the silicones thing...it's opposite for me. My hair wants to punch me in the face if I use silicones. I always end up going back to frequent conditionings....it helps give me that boost...my hair craves water/conditioner especially since it loses moisture so quickly. Of course we try to work on maintaining the moisture, but honestly for me it's not just that my hair loves it...I think I'm addicted to it hahaha.

I dc once a week, rinse/condition anywhere from 3 to 5 days a week...I baggy 5 or 6 nights a week...I do all I can to keep as much moisture in my hair as possible...along with my protein spray once or twice a week to help things along.

I've also been finding that using ceramides (for me, sunflower oil) has been helpful. Been thinking about trying some others. I usually mix my sunflower with castor.

Wow, our hair sounds so similar because I do pretty much the same thing. Co wash, moisturize, and seal at night. Let hair dry overnight. Moisturizer and ceramide oil under baggy and wig during the day. Only time I don't do this is if I'm sick or not going outside for the day. I do a dc twice a week, once with protein, one moisture.

I think with the silicones, it helps that I rinse my hair everyday and I don't use cones in every single product I have. For example, if my conditioner has cones in it, I won't use cones in my leave-in or sealant. I think cones on top of cones on top of cones can be the downfall of anybody's hair.
 

manter26

Well-Known Member
manter26 Solutions for Correcting Your Porous Hair!
The issues of individual scale damage and raised cuticles are the primary issues associated with porous hair. If you can somehow patch the scale damage and close these cuticles layers, even a little, you will resolve a majority of your hair porosity issues.

This right here is what I focus on weekly in this order: Wen Fig (rinse with cold water), Roux PC, then protein, followed by aloe vera juice and overnight DC. I don't use heat at all for DCs anymore because I believe it was making matters worse with the opening and closing of the cuticles. Eventually, I'll be rid of the frizzy mess on my ends lol.

I would only make one small change at a time and see how your hair reacts. That's a lot of stuff in a somewhat strange order...just make sure your hair can handle it and it's all necessary.
 

grownwomanaz

Love and Harmony
youwillrise I put the aloe vera juice (Lily of the Desert) in a spray bottle with a tablespoon of oil (mix of coconut, olive, and castor) shout out to Chiroco sp. I do 4 sections and saturate each then DC overnight. I do the same when I'm not DCing. Meaning, I use the aloe vera before my leave in. It makes my hair feel stronger and moisturized. When I first started using Roux I hated it and almost threw it away, but then I read on here that some were using it before DC and directly after washing. Tried it that way and bingo. ACV is not for me. I'm sure my mix was off, but I won't revisit that one, too risky lol.
 

grownwomanaz

Love and Harmony
manter26 Might be strange to you, but it has helped me lol. The only new thing I added was the aloe vera. I know what you mean though because some of these reggies are a bit involved, but with porous hair extra steps are needed to ensure your hair receives and retains moisture.
 

manter26

Well-Known Member
manter26 Might be strange to you, but it has helped me lol. The only new thing I added was the aloe vera. I know what you mean though because some of these reggies are a bit involved, but with porous hair extra steps are needed to ensure your hair receives and retains moisture.

Glad you found something that works. I don't use Roux but it seemed to me it is supposed to close the cuticle if it's for porous hair. Knowing that it just seemed odd to close the cuticle and use protein and a DC after doing so. Porous hair tends to be over-moisturized (loves protein) too so the overnight DC after protein could be 2 steps forward and 3 steps back for some. But again...glad you found a system.
 

tashboog

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Describe your hair? (fine/med/thick strands? Dense? Not very dense? Relaxed, natural, texturized, texlaxed? etc and so on) Fine strands, not very dense, natural
what are your hair's indicators of high porosity? My hair dries super quick like in 10 minutes, hair feels good when wet but dry and crunchy when dry, hair doesn't retain moisture in an 8 hour period at all.
what methods/products have you tried that really work for your hair? ACV rinses, adding aloe vera juice/gel to my products, making sure the pH of my products are between 4.5 to 5.5, and using curlformers to stretch and help maintain moisture, argan oil is the only oil so far that works on my porous hair, and protective styling is an absolute must for my porous hair. Also I've recently started doing henna treatments and this has also help with my porosity.
what have you tried that did NOT work for your hair/what do you avoid? Glycerin is a big fat no-no :nono:, heavy butters don't work they just make my hair greasy, oil rinsing didn't work for me either no matter what oil I used or the amount I used the end result was still greasy hair.
how has having high porosity hair affected your hair care & growth journey? Despite of having highly porous hair my hair is still growing and retaining length, but it does continue to break due to lack of moisture and I have to apply product to my hair twice a day to keep my hair from drying out. Also I was getting a lot of SSK's which I had to trim often until I started stretching with curlformers.
 
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allmundjoi

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I misted my dry, stretched, unwashed hair with Roux Fermodyl 619. Put a little Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie from root to tip, sealed with a little castor oil from root to tip and the. twisted my hair in 2 strand twists. I also oiled my scalp with castor oil. The next morn my hair was soft, but much softer than usual. Not only that, its been butter soft for 3 days! That NEVER happens. And I've been working out for 2 hours daily and have not been cowashing. I put my hair in 2 strand twists (I've never done my entire head in loose 2 strands) in b/c I was trying to put my hair in a style that I can cowash with very little manipulation. My hair has been so soft through my workouts that I don't even want to wash it. I have pulled the twists up into a bun and I can't believe how soft my hair is. I am pretty sure it is the Roux Fermodyl 619 Extra-strength Leave-In Treatment. I have read in other threads that the regular strength works well too. I put it I into a little 2oz spray bottle and add gtts of tea tree oil, peppermint and rosemary.

Ingredients: Water, Sodium/Tea-lauroyl Hydrolyzed Collagen, Laurylpyridinium chloride, laureth-11, sodium lauryl sulfate, glycol stearate, sodium lactate, stearic acid, aminomethl propanol, lactic acid, parfum, alcohol, cinnamyl alcohol, citronellol, geraniol, linalool
 

grownwomanaz

Love and Harmony
Hmm I like the the Roux line but never tried the Fermodyl 619 leave-in. Off to Sally's I go lol. Most of my porosity issues are in the back. I use Roux PC regulary directly after washing before DC. I try to keep my cuticles as flat as they can be and I am able to retain moisture alot better as a result.
 

allmundjoi

New Member
grownwomanaz said:
Hmm I like the the Roux line but never tried the Fermodyl 619 leave-in. Off to Sally's I go lol. Most of my porosity issues are in the back. I use Roux PC regulary directly after washing before DC. I try to keep my cuticles as flat as they can be and I am able to retain moisture alot better as a result.

You know, I tried the Roux PC before, but used it after my DC. It may have helped my hair porosity issues a little. I may revisit it and use it before my DC. The leave-in I used on freshly washed wet hair and it didn't really do anything for my porosity issues. On dry hair it worked wonders.
 
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